Talk:Medieval Europe

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There's a lot in Italy, but let's just refer people to Medieval and Renaissance Italy for Italy. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:51, 5 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

There's a lot to write about this topic

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...but it can (and is to some extent already) always be subdivided into subarticles. --Ypsilon (talk) 16:18, 29 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, this is a tremendous topic. It would be relevant to list every Italian town and city with Gothic art and architecture in it - just for Tuscany, I'm thinking of Siena, Florence, Arezzo, Cortona, Pisa, basically the major cities and then some. In France, Paris has to be listed for the Cluny. I think we'll want to subdivide this article into articles for different countries. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Rome

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Ibaman suggested that we should not list Rome in the article. Granted, the Middle Ages wasn't exactly the golden age of Rome and I've read that even wild animals roamed the streets of the city in broad daylight in the 700s. But it was still a notable center of Christianity (and most major events in the Middle Ages had a religious aspect to them) as the Old St. Peter's Basilica was located there, and the Pope was based there for at least part of the time.

Overall I think it's worth writing a few lines about what went on in the arguably the most important city in European history during the Middle Ages. For someone not that well-versed in history (like myself, I must admit) it may seem like Rome passed through some kind of wormhole from the fall of the Western Roman Empire to the Renaissance. Therefore I would suggest reinstating Rome here (it's also listed in Medieval and Renaissance Italy). --Ypsilon (talk) 18:30, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

shouldn't we, please please with sugar and almonds, devise a way to slightly expand on destinations? It would be a sin not to mention Toledo and Venice and Veliky Novgorod and Barcelona and Granada and Trier and Trebizond in this historic context. --Ibaman (talk) 20:40, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Rothenburg ob der Tauber and Nördlingen have among the best preserved city walls in what is now Germany. Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
What relics of the Medieval period(s) can be visited in Rome, other than of course the holdings of the Vatican Museums? But those might be enough to merit Rome being included in an article for probably any period of human existence. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:50, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
all I can remember are Roman buildings converted into private buildings (Theatre of Marcellus) and churches (in the Roman Forum), and that's my point, Rome is a major destination for Roman architecture and Renaissance architecture. As for Medieval architecture, it's not a major destination. The Old St. Peter's Basilica where Charlemagne was crowned Holy Roman Emperor is no more. Ibaman (talk) 20:59, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Everyone is welcome to add more destinations. If Rome is not to be included in the destinations list, I would still strongly suggest to add a few lines about what happened in Rome during the middle ages. Ypsilon (talk) 05:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:29, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Byzantine Empire

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Launched the Byzantine Empire article to fill a gap in our European history series. /Yvwv (talk) 21:11, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Franks

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Franks (including Carolingian Empire) would be representative of western and central Europe from the 3rd to the 9th centuries. Could possibly be more inclusive. /Yvwv (talk) 23:11, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Is there enough remaining from that period to have a useful travel topic? I know I've seen a Carolingian crypt in Auxerre, and of course there's Aachen. How much else is there? Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
wikipedia:Carolingian architecture has some entries. /Yvwv (talk) 00:41, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oh yeah, I've been to the Oratoire in Germigny-des-Prés. That's beautiful and has a really well-preserved mosaic. That's probably enough for a topic, especially if there's more from the times of Pepin, et al. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:29, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Islamic Golden Age is started as a parallel project. /Yvwv (talk) 15:45, 2 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
We could consider an article on the Kingdom of France to cover the châteaux, cathedrals, battlefields and other important locations from the 10th century up to the French Colonial Empire and the Napoleonic Wars. /Yvwv (talk) 00:06, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Florence

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Does it really belong here? Its sights are considered Renaissance. What is definitively a Medieval sight in that city? I guess the Palazzo Vecchio, but I think Siena, Arezzo and possibly Pisa would be clearer examples of Medieval cities in Tuscany, if we want some. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:32, 29 May 2022 (UTC)Reply